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I don't believe UFO's are the work of aliens. Do I believe in UFO's? Yes, because I've seen them, but I don't think aliens were flying them. For intelligent life outside our solar system to reach Earth, it would take hundreds of years of interstellar travel in a gigantic ship that could support multiple generations. Would they do that? Maybe, but how would they know we were here? We've only been sending out radio signals for around 120 years. Those signals might just NOW be reaching the aliens if their home planet is relatively close to ours, but surely not hundreds of years ago. For the aliens to know about us without picking up our radio signals, they would have had to find us at random with some kind of theoretical super telescopes. Finding one planet with life among millions, then dropping everything to send a crew of pilgrims off to say hello doesn't make any sense to me. And even if that did happen, why in the hell would they be murdering our cows, abducting our anti-depressant addicted middle-aged, and making shady deals with our government?

I call bullshit.

>> No.2  

Oh God it's STORMCROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

>> No.3  
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>>2

But all 4chanidness aside, your argument makes hella sense. Generally though any form of sci fi type space travel is almost entirely dependent on moving faster than the speed of light. In reality, we will be very hard pressed to make it out of our solarsystem within the next millenium, and an alien race would have to be millions of years older than the homo sapiens in order to make contact with us before we manage to exodus our system. I agree: Odds are, no aliens.

>> No.4  

I agree. I doubt humans will ever really meet extraterrestrials unless someone actually invents warp drive, which isn't going to happen

>> No.5  

What makes me not believe most accounts of alien encounters is that the aliens are humanoid. The chance of creatures on some other planet evolving to look and function anything like us is immensely small.

>> No.6  

>>5

While I agree with OP and others that UFOs are probably not anus obsessed aliens I don't think incredulity makes a good argument. I think the argument against travel is a good one but how would one calculate the supposedly low probability that ETs are hominid?

>> No.7  

I believe in UFO's too, having spent one beautiful clearsky night with my mom, watching them dance across the sky for hours.
I dont believe them to be ET. My impression that they are life forms very local to this here terra.

My figuring it, the earth is made up of layers of progressviely less and less dense atmospheres. There is the core, the surrounding atmospheres of magma, the earths crust, water atmosphere, the atmosphere, stratusphere, ect. We have scientic proof that organisms exist at each level of atmosphere.
As fish inhabit specific levels of water, we inhabit the bottom level of our atmosphere. if we go too high or too low beyond it, we die. I believe UFO's are creatures local to a higher atmosphere. I imagine them to take the shape of some kind of flexible transparent reflective disc of quite some size. in the night sky, they can sometimes be seen in the at the right angles. It explains the reports of UFO's suddenly disappearing from plain sight.

>> No.8  

>>6
He's right, the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. Sorry for using the WW3 excuse on you guys, but it's valid. And as for Warp Drive, maybe aliens already have Warp speed. For all we know, their technology is capable of bending time to achieve multiple light speeds. In order to wrap your brain around it, you really have to stop thinking of aliens using Earth technology.

>> No.9  

>>8

>bending time to achieve multiple light speeds

Oh fuck. Here's the thing. If traveling faster than light speed is possible, than that just proved a whole lot of math wrong, AKA you just divided by zero. But say they do manage faster than lightspeed travel without getting transmitted into energy, thrown into another galaxy, or ripped apart by physics itself. In that case I seriously doubt such a race would be concerned with the extremely primative race of humans on our planet.

TL:DR, Oh fuck, I'd kill myself from the shear impossibility of that technology.

>> No.10  

>>9
But that's the thing of it! Maybe they're interested because IF, and this is a big if(why I used Cruise Control), they are humanoid, they may look at us as a primitive version of themselves, and are studying us to gain a better understanding of their past. As anything advanced enough for multiple light speed, or slipspace travel, is bound to have lost some records of it's past. Meaning they may be using us as a model for what their civilization used to be. Least, that's what I think.
tl;dr-learn to fucking read.

>> No.12  

>>9
Regarding 'FTL = Divide By Zero'
Please refer to EDD-#018 "Event Horizon"
"Well, yes, surely we cant break the law of relativity... but we can get around it"

Think outside the bun, dude!

Also, in terms of conventional movement, travelling AT the speed of light is like dividing by zero, travelling -faster- than light is not like dividing by zero. Refer to special relativity.

>> No.13  

>>9
FTL travel is not possible by currently accepted theories without either lot of exotic matter (Alcubierre warp, stable wormhole), or an imaginary mass/energy.

100 years ago we thought radium water would be healthy for you.

What will we know better in 100 years?

>> No.14  

>>9
Start looking at quantum physics, I find it easiest to simply un-accept the laws of Newtonian physics...or to cry. But quantum mechanics allow for instant travel, as well as objects existing in 2 spots at once.

>> No.15  

>>14
Slightly inaccurate there. In situations where matter acts like a wave and not a particle, if you attempt to look at it as if it were a particle, it would appear to be in two places at once. All that's currently good on quantum theory is linking of quantum states, which allows for ftl communication without ftl motion.
Sadly, GR doesn't work on the subatomic scale, and QM doesn't work at high velocities.
This is why a unified field theory is the current holy grail of physics.

>> No.16  

>>15
Very wise, young Anon is.
/yoda
He's right. Because we understand so little is why we question everything. It's like I said though, which goes along great with what he says:
Stop thinking of them using Earth level tech. They're probably far more advanced, with a unified field theory, and the ability of ftl travel.

>> No.17  

>>14

So your saying radium water isn't healthy for me to be drinking?

Shit...

>> No.18  

>>15
Fine pouts
I'll go research better before I shoot my mouth off again, né?

>> No.19  

Humans have only been around for about 200k years, and the fact of the matter is, the planet has been around for a lot longer. We are a relatively young species - suppose it wasn't us that they first took interest in. Perhaps it was something earlier that we have no record of. Hell, for all we know, they came down and impregnated a couple hundred chimpanzees in hope of repopulating their race, and instead gave birth to us.

And if you found life on another planet, wouldn't you be excited? Of course they would send someone/something out for observation.

Two words: Prime directive.

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Yes, I believe that some Flying Objects are Unidentified. The average retarded mind just create a magic answer instead of research for answers (It's god/ghosts/aliens/time machines/inter dimensional creatures)

>> No.21  

>>19

Aliens are the missing link? Probably an old as fuck theory but I've never thought.

/my contribution

You can go back to your quantum physics now ^_^

>> No.22  

UFOs and "aliens" could be one of many possible things if they exist:

1: Actual E.T.s, which would require different technologies and ways of science than we have, can possibly conceive of, etc.

2: Rather than E.T.s, they are E.D.s (Extra Dimensionals) and not only function with different sciences and technologies, but possibly different laws of existance.

3: This is my favorite one. They could possibly be advanced forms of us from the future. I once heard one of those sci-fi ideas that maybe they are us and have adjusted their own biologies to the point that they don't need sustainance as we do, and different time frames have been visitting us. In our future, once our technology reaches that "Prime Directive" point, the future's future pays a visit, enlists them, etc.

>> No.23  

to contribute! two more theories on aliens I've thought of at points...

1) some lost civilization on earth had radio communication at one point and the aliens received those broadcasts and decided to investigate.

2) Earth is their petri dish, they placed the first microbes here and are watching to see how it all turns out.

and...

3) OMG, we're martians! ;)



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